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----------The Sword Masters----------

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We sword masters are proud of ourselves and love the art of swordfighting... we own study and live for swords... if you would like to join talk to me... [Indelible]

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Falchion

It is not a very well known weapon in history except among big time medieval buffs, but it is a rather important one. Forged from the basis of the Egyptians' Khopesh and the Greeks' Kopis, the Falchion came about. The original Falchions looked very similar to a dadao or for less educated people a cleaver. It was however, a one-handed single edged, sword that in the Rennaisance era was curved. The medieval era Falchions though were either straight, or kind of obtuse. The Falchion of 16th century origin is excelent for slicing maneuvers and suitable for a thrust because it often had a sharp point. From the look of it, though it is a bit short, this broad-bladed weapon looks like it could be used effectivley from a mount, provided that the wielder had a good reach. Over time this design turned into a longer, more slender blade, the Sabre/Saber. I only know that the medieval form of a Falchion, the Conyers Falchion, looked rather ungainly, and is used as the emphasis of many medieval/sword books.

--update by [champagnebommer 77]

The Art of Fence: The Parry

In the art of fence there is something called a parry. It is quite simple, knock the foe's sword away from your body. Well, from that principle you can gain the advantage. One way is the Parry of Prime and Disarm by Seizure.
You use this when your foe comes in high with a thrust. You hit their blade from the top, knocking the tip downward but keeping their hand high. At this time their sword is about vertical. Then, you wrap their blade close to your body with your off-hand arm. Next, you put your sword into your off-hand and grip theirs at the hilt with your sword-hand and rip it away.
Now you have the obvious advantage possessing both swords.

--Update by [champagnebommer 77]

Dodge

Now, although I have put up that while fencing you should parry, it is also important to just stay away. Most people get tired more quickly while parrying than while just avoiding a hit. If you remember to just side step and counter a thrust, or step back and jump in after an attempted swathing blow. There are times when you cannot avoid contact, and those are the times you should parry. When forced into a parrying situation don't just stop their, use your free hand to punch your enemy, or send a kick to the groin, that tend to catch most people off guard and put them on their knees.
It isn't all about honor. Even a knight of honor would use dirty tricks to win whether they were fighting to the death or for chivalrous honor. It doesn't matter if you look like a coward, you killed the witness.

--Update by [champagnebommer 77]

Heavy Blades

Another choise of weapon many people prefer is the heavier swords such as claymores, broad swords, and buster swords.

Monay people assume that attacks from a heavy blade come slow and there only purpose is to strike through armor. this is not entirely true i use a heavly blade and i can get very quick attacks, but i am niether bid nor strong.

I use a metal scabbard with my sword held horazontaly in front of me to use a a pary tool or a quick strike while holding my sword up in the air virticly above me.

the trick is to eather dodge or parry there strikes then swipe down forcfully with the sword and if you miss you will still have the scabbard to fall back on.

[warlord stuart]

History of the Sword

Preeminent hand weapon through a long period of history, consisting of a metal blade varying in length, breadth, and configuration, but longer than a dagger, and fitted with a handle or hilt usually equipped with a guard. The sword became differentiated from the dagger during the Bronze Age (c. 3000 BC), when copper and bronze weapons were produced with long, leaf-shaped blades and with hilts consisting of an extension of the blade in handle form. By Roman times the hilt was distinct from the short, flat blade, and by the European Middle Ages the weapon had acquired its main basic forms. The heavy sword of medieval chivalry had a large hilt, often designed to be gripped in both hands, with a large protective guard or pommel at the top. The blade was straight, double-edged, and pointed; it was fabricated by repeated firing and hammering, a process that converted the iron into mild steel by the addition of a small amount of carbon. Blades were also made of laminated strips of iron, which were hammered together. Damascus was a renowned center of the craft.

Toledan steel and particularly swords have long been famous, being mentioned as early as the 1st century BC in the Cynegetica of Grattius "Faliscus." There is an important National Factory of Arms and workshops for damask and engraving, which produce metalwork decorated in the Mudéjar tradition.

I take this from: http://www.armadilloarmory.com/hxsword.htm

[Alexxei]

Suggested reading: Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai by Yamamoto Tsunetomo
Exerpt from Hagakure
Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.
* There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking.
* These are the teachings of Yamamoto Jin'emon:
* Singlemindedness is all-powerful.
* Tether even a roasted chicken.
* Continue to spur a running horse.

* A man who will criticize you openly carries no connivance.
* A man exists for a generation, but his name lasts to the end of time.
* Money is a thing that will be there when asked for. A good man is not so easily found.
* Walk with a real man one hundred yards and he'll tell you at least seven lies.
* It is a principle of the art of war that one should simply lay down his life and strike. If one's opponent also does the same, it is an even match. Defeating one's opponent is then a matter of faith and destiny.

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2004-05-29 [Lordterrex]: hmm.. chinese broad swords, those take alot of learnign u have to leanr how to fight to use the flimsy steel to ur advantage, sme on untrained in it woudl jsut hurt themselves... lol

2004-05-29 [psychopomp]: yeh... but u can poke some one with it and it just bends wheeee!

2004-05-29 [Kurus_Dreaon]: lol....sounds fun

2004-05-29 [psychopomp]: o its oodles of fun

2004-05-29 [Kurus_Dreaon]: sounds like it....one of those would be so much fun in my house

2004-05-30 [Lordterrex]: lol...... im not sure if its purpose is for "poking"... i beleive its used to slashing...... yess... slashing.. lol

2004-05-30 [Kurus_Dreaon]: but when ya poke ppl it bends lol...i love that

2004-05-30 [Lordterrex]: thats y it wasnt made for poking.... it was made or cataborouse lasarations

2004-05-30 [psychopomp]: but poking people is fun

2004-05-30 [Lordterrex]: i agree... hell... thats how i got me first kiss... poking is a magical bit of fun

2004-05-30 [Kurus_Dreaon]: lol...wish it was that magical for me

2004-05-30 [Indelible]: stab stab slashidy slash...

2004-05-30 [Kurus_Dreaon]: im going to get my sword today....its a swash bucklers sword but its cool

2004-05-30 [warlord stuart]: lol i hate it when people brag about what kinda guns they have..."I have a 12 guage" oh yea i have a 3mm bebe gun!

2004-05-30 [psychopomp]: um yeh... sure

2004-05-31 [Lordterrex]: ... lol... i have a pellet bb gun mix.. IT IS SOO AWSOME... and i have a sling shot.. and a rock....... :)

2004-05-31 [champagnebommer 77]: I have, um, like some dumbbells...

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: i have a guniea pig... ^^

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i have my sword...its better then all that...even the guniea pig

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: *gasp*

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: yes!.....its the best ever....its better then a box of pop corn and thick butter

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: eeew

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: what?.....dont ya like pop corn...or did i miisinturpret that eeew

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: i like it but all that butter is sickening

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: oh...i love lots of butter

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: ick!

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: butter is so good /holds up lots of butter* mmmmmm butter

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: once again... ICK!

2004-05-31 [Kurus_Dreaon]: lol...ok ok...no more butter...so whats up.,..cant stay long....going to have to go soon

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: going to go play lazer tag!!! woohoo!!

2004-05-31 [Indelible]: couldn't you ppl msg each other? it would help clean out the comment section...

2004-05-31 [psychopomp]: ...but why?

2004-05-31 [Indelible]: does anyone need to know about ppls BUTTER...

2004-06-01 [warlord stuart]: lol its just for a bit of fun samurai sheesh

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: meh...

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: yah my bad....that was me :)....i started the buttefr thing....sorry

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i dont care anymore... anywho... butter yumm... i went to the movies one time... (just to see it The last samurai... katanas...*drools* yea... my popcorn was like swimming in butter almost... gotta love the butter

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: yes...i love butter....so did my grandmother....thats why she needed heart surgury...thats what we think

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: and sum1 put elemental god and lord of dragons at the bottom... i'm to lazy

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: hey i wanna join now...do i need to send a formal request to ya

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: you can join if you put the other 2 kids at the bottom...

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: ok whats the password

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: there ya go...im up

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: your here to learn....

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: yup....thats why im here...to learn what i can then to have fun

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i'm the ancient japanese guy... i know ancient japanese weapons and some other cultures... such as ancient egyptian and celtic

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: how did the celtic fight...i havent read much about them yet

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i know that chariots where used to smash into enemy lines

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: cool...what about the up close hand to hand fighting

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i actually dunno much about it other than it was similar to the roman style...

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i think.... hmm...

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: ok then...thats cool...i like that kinda stuff...so im always trying to learn more about it.....i also love sword fighting...though i cant find anywhere near me that teaches it

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i'm mostly self taught... but the internet and a teacher i found helps a bit

2004-06-01 [Kurus_Dreaon]: where do ya go o the internet?

2004-06-01 [Shining light]: can I join? I am learning the use of several Wing Chun Kung Fu weapons, such as the butterflyswords, and the Hlaberds, and Dragon Poles. Are the Butterflyswords classed as swords enough for me to join?

2004-06-01 [Lordterrex]: is this place down??... apparently not,.... i tried to send a much longer message about celts and it wouldnt let me

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i never had any trouble posting

2004-06-01 [Lordterrex]: ... hmm... well.. it was a long message.. i will see if i can do t now

2004-06-01 [Lordterrex]: the celts used chainmail armor primarily in the early times, it was mostly made with scraps of metal and sum rings witch made up the mail.... they used large swords, such as claymores, the tips of there swords were sumwhat blunted witch shows that they probably didnt stab there opponents, that slashed at them, alot of times they would paint there swords black so that it wouldnt rust, there armor wasnt the best, but they also had warriors that didnt wear any armor at all, they were called woad raiders, they snuck up on there enemys and attacked, naked and painted in blue, they used spears and swords, extremely powerful attackers, except for the no armor

2004-06-01 [Lordterrex]: ooo... it sent

2004-06-01 [psychopomp]: wow u peeple write a lot... i don't feel like reading it.. is shining light joining??

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: i dunno i msged him telling him to join and stuff

2004-06-01 [psychopomp]: o ok... his loss

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: yes it would be... missing out on a bunch of crazy ppl with swords

2004-06-01 [psychopomp]: mwa hahaha

2004-06-01 [Indelible]: everyone! my poll awaits you all!

2004-06-02 [psychopomp]: woohoo... should i be excited??

2004-06-02 [Indelible]: ??

2004-06-02 [psychopomp]: nvm

2004-06-02 [Kurus_Dreaon]: hi all...im back

2004-06-02 [Indelible]: bushido... the only way...

2004-06-02 [Kurus_Dreaon]: ok?

2004-06-02 [Winter_Alone]: may I join?

2004-06-02 [Indelible]: join join... you need the pass... msg me and i'll tell you the pass

2004-06-02 [crashbanger]: can i join please??p

2004-06-02 [psychopomp]: wow... lots o'new people

2004-06-02 [zinny]: AHHH! WHY SO...COMPLEX???NOT COOL! AHHH!! ...swordsmanclub....*ahem*....*cough* yaaa.

2004-06-02 [Indelible]: complex??

2004-06-03 [~~Stitched~~]: I collect sharp pointy objects, like katanas

2004-06-03 [psychopomp]: yay for katanas!!

2004-06-04 [Kurus_Dreaon]: cool...ive started collecting to

2004-06-04 [psychopomp]: nice... i only have one... not much of a collection

2004-06-04 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i have 2...i feel special

2004-06-04 [Mafia Girl]: cool! People who know what there doing! I'm going to start fencing soon sooo......CAN I PLEASE JOIN? *begs*

2004-06-04 [psychopomp]: hehe.. u seem desprate

2004-06-04 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i wanna start fencing but i dont have enough money *sighs* got to go ttyl

2004-06-04 [Winter_Alone]: I have Narsil, does that count?

2004-06-04 [psychopomp]: narsil??

2004-06-04 [Winter_Alone]: the blade that was broken in lord of the rings..

2004-06-05 [Kurus_Dreaon]: cool

2004-06-05 [~~Stitched~~]: I taught myself fencing over the last 6 years, I be good at it so i be happy

2004-06-05 [psychopomp]: OoO... i should have known that... i heart LOTR

2004-06-05 [Kurus_Dreaon]: meh...i would teach myself but i need a basic understanding that i lack....if i knew the basics i would try to teach my self

2004-06-06 [Lordterrex]: i no the basics... have a good stance, and swing the damn thing

2004-06-06 [Kurus_Dreaon]: well then im all set lol

2004-06-06 [psychopomp]: i tried fencing once.... it didn't go so well i kept running away

2004-06-06 [Winter_Alone]: its cool

2004-06-07 [Kurus_Dreaon]: lol...sounds like me...id do that lol

2004-06-07 [warlord stuart]: go to Warlord Stuart' Army i garentee you will like it.

2004-06-07 [Kurus_Dreaon]: k cool

2004-06-07 [elvan dragon]: i've been swordfighting for years and now i'm interested in proving it to people and not showing off

2004-06-07 [Ashes of Ael]: ^.^

2004-06-07 [Indelible]: hey all... does any1 think a sword art contest would be a good idea?

2004-06-07 [champagnebommer 77]: Yay 4 sord Rt!

2004-06-07 [champagnebommer 77]: Actually I was just reading along, and I do like the heavier bladed swords, namely the claymore. And yes, a lot of people don't realize that as long as a sword is well balanced that you are not going to be slowed down by it, for the most part. Heck, a lot of people even like those unbalanced swords because they allow for a really fast swathing blow, but are just hard to bring the tip up again.

2004-06-07 [warlord stuart]: thank you very much for the compliments

2004-06-07 [psychopomp]: go for the art contest!

2004-06-08 [Shining light]: sure! i'd enter a contest!

2004-06-08 [Lordterrex]: i wouldnt... my hands are small and broad... not meant for drawing.. meant for grabbing and swinging

2004-06-09 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i cant draw but id like to see other ppls art

2004-06-09 [Lordterrex]: same here

2004-06-13 [psychopomp]: i can't draw but i would ne way

2004-06-13 [Shining light]: it is spelled 'any'way. I don't like it when people spell things in chat speak. even if it is in chat... it annoys the heck out of me, and I start hurting my immediate surroundings...

2004-06-14 [Kurus_Dreaon]: oh dont do that...poor immmediate surroundings......i dont post in chat talk much....just sometimes...if that helps your surroundings

2004-06-14 [Shining light]: sure. that's ok for you; i was directing that to psycopomp

2004-06-14 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i know...but i use it sometimes...but ill use it less......if it irratates you

2004-06-14 [Shining light]: ok, thank you.

2004-06-14 [Kurus_Dreaon]: Your velcome :)

2004-06-14 [psychopomp]: :D sorry but don't count on me stopping, not to annoy you just because it has become habit and i will forget

2004-06-15 [elvan dragon]: yea go for the art contest

2004-06-15 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i had to fight to keep from putting that "your" in chat talk...i almost did...but i didnt...i have a tiny bit of self control...though i am useing just about all of it here lol

2004-06-16 [Shining light]: DRAWING CONTEST...CONTEST...CONTEST...CONTEST!!!

2004-06-17 [warlord stuart]: NEW POSITIONS OPEN AT Warlord Stuart' Army!!! go there its funny

2004-06-17 [psychopomp]: ...??

2004-06-17 [warlord stuart]: GO THERE! you will realy like it ^_^

2004-06-17 [psychopomp]: hmm...maybe

2004-06-17 [Kurus_Dreaon]: i do...tis good wiki

2004-06-17 [Shining light]: aside from the fact that you stole thos images from the net...i have seen them before, ages before your wiki started...0_0

2004-06-18 [toranoxer]: cool wiki...

2004-06-19 [psychopomp]: eh

2004-06-19 [Kurus_Dreaon]: the horror....its a very intersting wiki so im not to perturbed by it to be honest

2004-06-20 [ViciousLegato]: can i join? ^^

2004-06-21 [champagnebommer 77]: I should start doing more with my katana, but it would delay my weight lifting obsession.

2004-06-21 [psychopomp]: o my goomas!... not weightlifting!

2004-06-22 [Indelible]: Hey all... i am going to need judges for my sword art contest... if you are interested let me know... also if you want to enter... The sword art contest awaits you... remember judges cant enter in the contest...

2004-06-23 [psychopomp]: ooo ill be a judge... sign me up!

2004-06-23 [Indelible]: and does any1 have mIRC?

2004-07-07 [champagnebommer 77]: Well, I love lifting weights, and its a pretty big thing where I live, and I've just rocketed up, from a zero to a more than zero in under an year by lifting weights. People notice me now. But yeah, so far I haven't gotten slower from weight lifting, but sometime I suspect that it will slow me down. But, I'll stick with it. Swords all the way too!

2004-07-08 [Kurus_Dreaon]: yay for that

2004-07-10 [Lordterrex]: actualy, weight lifting will only slow u down if u dotn strecth, i weight lift, and it has only made me a shit load faster, if u do leg workouts, than do strides, that way ur leg muscles will not become to tight

2004-07-11 [psychopomp]: or u could just run

2004-07-11 [psychopomp]: that way u build up ur endurance as well as ur muscles

2004-07-11 [Lordterrex]: well, running dosent increase upper body strength, and it takes longer to build muscle that way, it does do better on endurance, but as a lifter myself, u also have to understand that when u lift weights u arent jsut goign for the phisical advantage, your going for a look, a muscular look, when u run u get the lean look, not the muscular one....

2004-07-11 [psychopomp]: hehe... yeh but when u get old it will all turn to flab... ew flabby old people!

2004-07-11 [Lordterrex]: lol... actualy it wont, its been proven that muscle never turns into flab, but they get smaller over time if u dotn keep them in shape

2004-07-11 [psychopomp]: FLAB!!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: old people just dont work out as much or cant and long story short the muscle deteriorates

2004-07-12 [Pyro Mac]: what is this wiki about?

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: Swords.... swordfighting... the works...

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: haha... o yeh!... um uh sword fighting is a good way to work out!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: no1 believes me when i tell them i can swordfight... its sad... its how i keep my upper body in shape... not really but it helps... i do alot of running for my lower body and leg lifts

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: i just learn to learn... im learning a katana sword form...so much ritual and respect involved!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: respect... loyalty... honour...ritual... courage... trust...

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: hehe i just wanna play with it :p

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: its more of a lifestyle for some...

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: yeh i know... i love and respect my sword don't get me wrong... but the style of karate i take is very traditional in weapons forms

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: i love my swords... expecially my fav... my katana... the engravings so crisp pure... the blade... like steel poetry sleek and shine that bears the perfectly sharpened tip with traditional method...

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: well... i got mine from a catalog... but i want a real! real one but i can't afford one at the moment probably once i get a car 'n such ill save up for one but not right now... im still in the learning process :D and i love my sword!!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: i need judges for my contest and a entry deadline... can any1 help me?

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: i can judge!! ooo ooo ooo me!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: good deal... i need one other... do you know anyone?? and what do you think a reasonable deadline would be?

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: um... i dunno u should have people sign up first just to see how many people r interested but u could set one now and adjust it later... so um... i don't know i g2g now ne way

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: i'll figure sumthin out...

2004-07-12 [Lordterrex]: ill do it... what kidn of contest is it, i no a shit load about swords... plzz excuse my frances.... i study them all the time, did u no that they used a special method ont he tips of the katana blades so it woudl be shaprder and stronger that the europeans had no idea even existed??... infact, we only began to recreate it in the 20s

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: yes i know and there is also a mechod used to make a kind of pattern or look to the blade... mine looks like fire on the tip... its herd to explain i shall post a site with details

2004-07-12 [Lordterrex]: i ferget what its called, i beleive it starts with a de, they have the name at a place called angelfire.com, they seel swords and knives, and use that method, the method is expensive though, a small cube of it costs over 80 dollars

2004-07-12 [(Lion)heart]: Hrm... swords I see? This I'm interested in.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: sword kick ass...

2004-07-12 [(Lion)heart]: Of course...

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: Well in my weight lifting I go entirely for mass, so I do get slower, never faster. But aside fromn that. Sorry i still haven't scanned my sword art drawing.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: when can you scan it? better be soon or ur gunna havta wait till the next one

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: I honestly don't know when. Basically just whenever I remember to call a friend of mine. But he's not always home either.

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: I'll call him today at noon. I promise.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: good deal...

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: instead of judges u should just put them up and have people vote on them

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: thats what i am doing on certain section... but theres still other areas where i want judges

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: ooo oky smoky!

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: smoky??

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: yeh

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: huh?

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: Sorry I just found out, my friend's scanner does not work because they don't have the driver for it anymore. So, I have no way of getting my picture up. Do the sword art contest without me then.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: wanna judge then?

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: Sure.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: thats great... when is a good entry deadline? for you? or should it be based on the number of entries?

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: Any week day will work for me as a deadline. It's been going for a while now. So, I'd say no later than July 31 or August 1. Mainly because the first and last days of the month tend to stick in people's heads. I only know of one other person planning to compete that hasn't posted their's yet. So that's not very many entries.

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: this person will be entering? soon?

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: I honestly have no clue when, but they said they would enter. Check the comments at the contest page. I think the user is Shining Light.

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: If they don't get their piece in by the time the selected deadline is up then they'll just have to miss out. But, When do you think the deadline should be?

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: about a week from now

2004-07-12 [champagnebommer 77]: Sounds good to me.

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: yeh sounds good... what?

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: deadline is being set... i'm making it [july 19 2004] any complaints about that date?

2004-07-12 [psychopomp]: not from i... but im not drawing

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: good deal...

2004-07-12 [Lordterrex]: me neither... so.. i guess it dosent affect me.. o yea... do i get to judge??

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: i could always use another judge

2004-07-12 [Lordterrex]: .. hehehe... good

2004-07-12 [Indelible]: i need areas to judge on like more... you know i have ET favorite and stuff... but i need more

2004-07-12 [Lordterrex]: yes.. i no.. tottaly

2004-07-13 [psychopomp]: hmmm ill give it some thought

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